In order to use it effectively, you kind of have to build most of the team around Round. For Generation III games, ignore Abilities introduced in Generation IV or later and Hidden Abilities. Even potentially a slightly bulkier support contrary Serperior.Really, there are a ton of fun options. And their is oranguru with trick room (as well as partial normal typing). Def is pretty good and this gives her the ability to heal herself, great when combined with Leftovers.Attract cripples the opponent.

Thus the only real benefit to using Round at all is the speed control.

This effect comes after other effects that change a move's type, but before Ion Deluge and Electrify's effects. It was fun as a gimmick for a few games and I did get some wins with it. Polygon-Z essentially gets a now 120 bp, 100% accurate special attack boosted by STAB and adaptability, bringing it up to 240 bp off of a pokemon with 135 special attack. I was not aware the first attack isn't boosted. Now on the 2nd turn blaziken who we'll say is the fastest pokemon on the field uses round, even if Primarina is the slowest pokemon on the field she will use round immediately following blaziken. It actually is one of the few speed control moves that works in the same turn you use it, so it has the potential to take the opponent by surprise. Similarly, this now becomes essentially a more powerful, 100% accuracy hydro pump for Primarina thanks to liquid voice. Thanks for the extra input you brought some things I wasn't aware of to attention.We need to push for this buff/mechanic change as you said there is a drawback in team comp and risk of protect neutering it so making both get the boost would go a long way towards being useful...Trust me there are a lot of drawbacks. Rest allows it to absorb status and recover.

Primarina can forego Special Attack investment to invest in its Defense to survive powerful hits such as Tectonic Rage from Landorus-T, as it already has enough power with its STAB moves. The reason that I choose surf over sparkling aria is because Pokemon with the ability soundproof are unaffected by sparkling aria and that if you opponent had a burn, it would be healed by sparkling aria. I choose not to use Hidden Power, on mine, since I use a Timid one, and the above HP types, require a speed iv, of 30. And a particular move came to mind: round. Thank you.Thanks! Effect. And a particular move came to mind: round. Probably not. Besides, Liquid Voice seemed like a neat ability. It's only really if any use in doubles, but round (60bp) doubles in power if another pokemon joins in during the same turn, and the slower pokemon (Primarina) moves immediately after the faster user.

Round would be significantly better if it worked the way you think it does.The extra power for the second attacker is nice, but the combined damage output from both your pokemon is almost always going to be lower than if you had just attacked normally. But overall it's not the best form of speed control.Trust me there are a lot of drawbacks.

What they mean bydoubles in power if another pokemon joins in during the same turn, and the slower pokemon (Primarina) moves immediately after the faster user.is that Round changes where Primarina will use it in the turn order, ignoring Primarina's speed, not that Primarina would have to have the exact amount of speed to go right after the other Round user for this to be effective. I use all those Pokemon too. Manectric/Mega manectric for the lightning rod/intimidate as well as being a fast special attacker.

The other being Galvanize on the Geodude family, which no one uses.There's still the issue of having the same base power as Sparkling Aria, but the benefit is you can use Rain-Boosted Hyper Voice in doubles for a nuke that's probably even stronger than Mega-Gardevoir's Hyper Voice.Liquid voice doesn't convert normal type moves to water type moves. Moon blast is useful for being your other stab move, Ice beam can be used over moon blast for good coverage, and roar can be used to stop Pokemon from setting up and its useful for racking up entry hazard damage. Sparkling Aria is a great STAB move, which also gives you the choice of using Primarinium Z. Scald could burn your opponent, dropping their Attack also, so you may last longer in battle.Sparkling Aria (Z-Move to Oceanic Operetta, STAB, Stacks with Mystic water)Moonblast (Does not stack with Primarium Z or Mystic water, but Life Orb and STAB are saviors. Probably the worst one is that if one Pokemon gets their turn interrupted, then the other Pokemon basically wastes their turn too.Another major one is that Round is hard to fit into a normal team. Thanks for suggestionIt is noteworthy that Hydro Pump is essential if running Assault Vest to keep the damage output mildly high. For Generation IV games, ignore Hidden Abilities. That's why I chose Timid for its nature.Timid Primarina Speed ties base 110 speed Pokemon, if they have a nature boosting speed. The assault vest boosts your special bulk further so you can take most electric moves, and wise glasses boosts the power of your special moves.Scald is useful for burning, complimenting your already well invested physical defense. But I can't imagine trying to seriously ladder with it, let alone bring it to a tournament. If you want to win every game, scald/surf and ice beam are much better options. And a team built around Round is not very versatile and will have trouble against many threats.I did try a team like that in Gen 6. People may think it was a typo and I was trying to write Spe. But it's SpD.I check the revisions before. A lot of them have options for speed control too, like icy wind/trick room. Access to priority in Aqua Jet allows Primarina to beat Sturdy Pokemon and pick off weakened Pokemon. Its not going to out speed anything without scarf. I appreciate your feedback, but just to let you know. Liquid Voice causes all sound-based moves used by the Pokémon to become Water type. It got me thinking what kinds of partners could she get some use out of that with? It converts sound-based moves to water type movesVery well thought out. Let me actually repeat this again. View strategies and more for Primarina on the Smogon Strategy Pokedex. I'm going to assume for all intents, and purposes, that the Primarina has 252 Evs in Speed, and a 31 Iv also in Speed, and is level 50.

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